Listen here:
0:01: Intro
2:22: The history of the phoenix; quote about the phoenix by Clement of Rome; introduction of the Rev. Dr. Eric Elnes
4:40: Who is Eric Elnes?
6:20: Eric Elnes on the origin of, and process of writing, "The Phoenix Affirmations"
9:45: Arriving at "version 3.8", not a definitive list
11:45: The structure of the document
12:10: An overview of "Christian Love of God"
12:40: Eric Elnes on the interfaith affirmation; speaking as Christians to the Christian community; "we need ot own our problems"
14:25: Eric Elnes on the need for vibrant artful worship
17:10: An overview of "Christian Love of Neighbor"
18:05: Eric Elnes on social justice and God's identification of the poor, outcast, and oppressed
20:15: An overview of "Christian Love of Self"
21:00: Eric Elnes on the progressive need to "love one's self"
23:17: Rev. Brian Ellison reflects on part one of Elnes interview
28:35: Eric Elnes on the origin of Asphalt Jesus: Finding a New Christian Faith Along the Highways of America and his 2500 mile walk
32:30: Eric Elnes on the new Christian, grassroots faith he found on his walk
33:33: Eric Elnes on the characteristics of an inclusive, compassionate, progressive faith that was "category defying"
34:37: Eric Elnes on the three energies of Christian Faith
35:00: Eric Elnes on "Anger" (Good Friday) energy - "Someone killed my Jesus!"
36:12: Eric Elnes on "Angst" (Holy Saturday) energy - "What happened to my Jesus?"
38:04: Eric Elnes on "Awe and Wonder" (Easter Sunday) energy - "God is up to something!"
39:55: Eric Elnes on reaching out without walking a pilgrimage; recalling Hereford, TX;
42:50: DVD of The Asphalt Gospel
45:42: Rev. Brian Ellison reflects on part two of Elnes interview
51:24: Outro
2 comments:
Thanks, Landon, for a wonderful interview. I was delighted by the thoughtful reflections you and Brian Ellison made at a couple of points. I'm particularly going to "take home" the point about Apathy being one of the energies (Perhaps it's Maundy Thursday - "the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak ..."?), and the point about the Phx Affirmations countering the old assumption that "doctrine divides and mission unites." I was also delighted by some of the background you gave of the Phoenix. While I was aware of most of it, I had not known that the cycle is repeated every 500 years. What's particularly intriguing here is that many (including myself) believe that Christianity undergoes a major paradigm shift roughly ever 500 years and that we're now at one of those 500 year marks. How appropriate!
- Eric Elnes
Thank you, Eric for joining us. I think that you have definitely helps us put a good faith into words.
Certainly kudos to Brian for the "Apathy" addition. I, too, thought that was a great perspective.
You know, I had an inkling that 500 years was important, but I couldn't articulate why. Now I know!
Thank you again. Blessings on your ministry.
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